We used natural intelligence to answer this question. Written by Francesca Rivafinoli.
A strange phenomenon is the way masses throw themselves at otherwise contradictory internet artificial intelligence detectors, so that they algorithmically tell them, with a certain error percentage and a series of methodological limitations, what they should think about the content of the audio recordings that have just been made public.
It is as if the possibility of people resorting to their well-proven, natural intelligence does not arise.
However, the procedure is very simple and, moreover, obvious: we take the audio recording presented to us at the given time, plus we take a statement published at the same time, guaranteed to be original and proudly undertaken by the person in question, and skillfully compare the two. If the recording and the guaranteed authentic expression point in the same direction and are more or less character killers, we can assume that the audio recording is original; if, on the other hand, the announcement posted by your own hand, for example, bears the signature of a decent, credible, scandal-free author, while the file picked up by someone else evokes a vulgar pub content, distrust is justified. In the latter case, it is advisable to investigate further - even then without partiality and any prejudice,
because we have seen ugly double lives here.
Or to put it another way: if the Facebook posts consistently feature a Ferenc Mádl character, but a Péter Magyar rants on the recordings, it can rightly be more suspicious than when the Facebook posts and the audio materials both bear the stylistic features of Péter Magyar, the biggest in accordance.
So let's run such a check.
It was Tuesday when one of Evelin Vogel's audio recordings appeared, including information about the TISZA leader that he "can't think in a system", "chaotic", and dishonest ("he performed something for me massively, it was an Oscar-winning performance anyway") he is "immature in many aspects", and "he can manage even his narrow environment super well".
It was also Tuesday when Péter Magyar
(while his party was "jokingly" producing a manipulated recording of Viktor Orbán)
posted the following text on his Facebook page , presumably based on Válasz Online: "While the Rogáns are producing manipulated recordings, (...) the Hungarian economy and companies are being dealt another deep blow by the fact that, as of yesterday, our electricity is the most expensive in all of Europe. (…) Many of the new solar panels are not producing, production has decreased due to maintenance in the Mátra and Gönyő power plants. You can try to blame everything on the war and sanctions, but just look at the map and the reality will be revealed immediately."
Let's see what we can determine even from this small text!
Can you think in "systems"? Are you honest? Is it immature or particularly ripe? Are you calm (as well as nix ugribugri) or are you running chaotically online? Is there any sign that he leads anyone, or can we not find one even if we look for it?
Let's take it one by one. the "since yesterday our electricity is the most expensive in all of Europe" means: it's not enough that the price of butter has gone up again, electricity has also become more expensive since yesterday, and it will never be cheaper. This interpretation is even well supported by the sentence that this means "another deep blow" to the economy - which average person would understand this otherwise than
from now on, the Hungarian economy will have to adapt to brutal electricity prices.
On the other hand, what happened is that between November 11 and 13, 2024, i.e. for exactly three days, Hungary currently had the highest electricity price on the stock exchange, and then from Thursday Romania and Bulgaria took the lead (by a larger margin than Hungary previously led ). If we look back at the data, before the price jump in Hungary at the beginning of the week, the same price was recorded from Hamburg to Burgas on November 9-10, and Italy hung out slightly upwards, before that, on November 8, Hungary had the highest amount, also with a minimal difference ; and on November 7 in Croatia. On September 2nd, the stock market price per megawatt hour in Hungary was no less than 222 euros - then on September 3rd it was exactly 0 euros.
The Tisza leader's fake news was refuted by the energy lawyer
In light of everything, can the tendency to lead others be discovered in the TISZA leader's own post, or can it not be discovered?
If the reason for the prices in Hungary is the ugly overhead reduction, which may lead to investment being left behind, then why do the stock market prices in Romania without overhead reduction move consistently with the Hungarian ones? If, in the current weather situation, gas has become the number two source of electricity in Hungary, and the number one source in Romania, can it be said that the activation of gas power plants is some kind of negative Hungarianism?
Of course, if someone finds a post from November 14, in which Péter Magyar says that you can breathe a sigh of relief, from now on our electricity is no longer the most expensive on the stock market, that would be proof that he had no intention of leading (he was just rushing a little chaotically ) –
however, there is no trace of such an entry.
We would also be more likely to think of Vogel's sentences referring to confusion and a lack of thinking in the system as character assassination, if Péter Magyar did not draw the conclusion with complete determination from his inherently volatile numbers for a given moment in time on a Facebook post taken from someone else that the government's complete policy has failed here . If we take the trouble and study the annual averages against the fluctuating daily prices,
even as a layman, we can clearly see how Hungary is not out of line,
and how the whole neighborhood is the same color. Of course, it is also possible that the TISZA Party knows how we can break out of the regional patterns and how we can conjure up Norwegian conditions in the Great Plains (he would even convince me by adding a few fjords), only then should the party president explain this, instead of suggesting it that far and away Hungary is the only loser. Reading a smart, thoughtful post, one might immediately suspect that Evelin Vogel is calling him immature and unfoundedly slanderous just for the purpose of smearing him.
Unfortunately, the Facebook post available to us does not allow us to conclude this.
The view that "it is enough to look at the map and it becomes clear immediately" that it is not the war, nor the sanctions, nor anyone else is to blame, but only the Hungarian government, is particularly confusing and almost amounts to character suicide. It is not clear that Péter Magyar is so manipulative, so that he tells the white person to look at him and we will immediately see that he is black - or he really does not see through the systems that much, and the interpretation of a map of Europe is beyond his abilities. I wouldn't assume either
with his post, however, he issues a certificate about himself that we have not yet heard from his ex-partner.
If you really look at the map, and even at the maps of previous years, it turns out that the individual regions (as so-called price regions) move together, that Romania, which is constantly being hammered, is the same (with its more polluting energy mix); or that the sunny, coastal, but also sprinkled with high mountains, so that it can rely on various renewable sources practically all year round, the stock market price in Greece is higher almost every month than in Hungary.
The phrase "many new solar panels do not produce" . Let's face it, this strongly suggests, manipulatively, that the guilty government was able to fill the roofs with defective solar panels that would underperform on a foggy (plus otherwise windless) November day. Wouldn't a Facebook post, for example, that says
my bloods, there is temporarily too little electricity in the system, imports are expensive, so let's get together, at least we, smart and good-smelling sissies,
and let's give a demand-side answer to this, consuming only as much as is reasonably necessary: for example, don't stream unnecessarily in these few days! I myself would be so happy to upload an AI-generated Orbán speech here for you to share, but I will wait until the stock market price goes down, before everything else!
But no: instead, by using expensive electricity, he complains about how terribly expensive electricity is.
Badly supported by the fact that he "can't think in a system".
With our natural intelligence-based method, it can therefore be shown: Tuesday's recording certainly contains real and unfalsified complaints - and using the same method, everyone can determine for themselves whether, for example, the audio from Thursday denouncing the MEPs and the "false position" can be authentic, if that day the TISZA president in Brussels, during the EP debate on civil and defense preparedness, read on Telex's Facebook page and laughed at the comments of the voters regarding the audio recording of that day.
Featured image: Source: Transparent Journalism Foundation
