The "green" lobby and the "green" clamor are particularly dangerous - said Csaba Ferencz, electrical engineer, space explorer, Grand Master of the Order of St. István, who was also the chief national security advisor of the first freely elected Prime Minister, József Antall, in an interview with our newspaper.

He was born in Csíksomlyo in 1941, then lived in Csíkszereda until 1947, when he fled to Hungary with his family. What are your most defining childhood memories?

Yes. I was born in Csíksomlyó across from the Church of God. I'm from Szekler. I thank the Lord that, despite all his difficulties, he granted me that I could be Hungarian, and that I could be Székely, that I could be born in a Székely family, in Csíksomlyo, Csík county.

The figure of Hargita visible from there lives in me, and the watchful gaze of Our Lady has accompanied me since my birth.

He had to flee already in 1944. Even today, I still have the image of the last, low-sided freight car of the train and the two red lights at the end of the car and the tracks running backwards, as my mother hugged me. The fact that we survived is thanks to several miracles. For example, during the bombing of Pápa, an incendiary bomb fell next to me - about one meter away.

It exploded, everything was on fire, but not a single strand of my hair curled.

My father was a Soviet prisoner of war in 1945, from where he returned home sick in 1947. We, my mother, my brother and I, after the escape - having experienced a lot - returned to our maternal grandmother in Arad. I lived in Petrozsény until 1947, with my miner uncle. Then they ran away from Battonya, and we continued to live in Mezőberény. I went to high school peacefully, and those of us who are still alive still have a friendly relationship with that class.

The Kis István high school in Szegedi in Békés gave me such knowledge and human support, reinforcing everything I received from my parents and brother, which I still rely on in life. My brother's life, just like my father's, is a separate story, who was a high school student during the war. His early death at the age of 51 was also the result of the terrible operation of the Arrow and Communist monsters.

After that, I became an engineer at the Faculty of Electrical Engineering of the Budapest University of Technology, and with four other third-year fellow students – two mechanical engineering and two electrical engineering students – we started doing complex space exploration in Hungary as third-year students, swimming against the tide. But that was the beginning of our adulthood.

Together with his fellow engineers, including his wife, Ilona Árkos, they carried out the technical and structural examination of the Szent Korona from 1978 to the present day. There are several views on its origin, and archeometric studies are given. What do we know for sure and what is the official narrative? Why is there no consensus when the facts are given?

The Holy Crown returned home in early 1978. I myself considered it one of the nation's most important and holiest relics, and I still do today. But I did not bother to investigate it until this return home. However, his return home disturbed the so-called professional community. Until then, only a few people dealt with it, and typically without the possibility of direct investigation by the Crown. An art historian friend of ours, Gábor Pap, contacted us to ask if we could calculate the probability of the lower and upper crown parts being made independently and possibly coming together.

In other words, what is the probability that the Crown, which we have been guarding for about a thousand years, could be the way it is when it is later put together from two independently made parts.

What he asked to investigate, the connection of the name festivals (name days) of the images of the Crown in the lower and upper part, contained many (occasionally uncertain) hypotheses, but he dragged us - in addition to the two of us, three other engineers - into the substantive technical examination of the Crown. After all, the laws of nature are stronger than any other scientific hypothesis. Thus, we began to examine the structure, dimensions, and damages of the Holy Crown regardless of any assumptions.

Meanwhile, in 1980-81, it was even suggested that they wanted to take apart and "repair" the Crown. This was prevented by convening an international conference, and we were able to take the dimensions of the Crown and the other regalia (without touching it, without even lifting it out of the display). In this way, we were able to examine the structure of the Holy Crown based on verified data. (The results were also published in a book.)

According to the earlier and still "official" views, since there are images with Greek inscriptions at the bottom and Latin inscriptions at the top, it was assembled later (one or the other) from an independently made Greek crown or something Latin (part of a crown, other object, book cover, etc.) according to the researcher, it was DIY...) and the cross was put on it afterwards, which then became crooked as a result of damage, and the crookedness was not corrected.

We found another. Both the lower and upper parts are made with the same strap widths, in the same size order, and both are basically asymmetrical. What's more, it is asymmetrical, i.e. made to match each other.

And not only does the cross fit obliquely to the closed crown consisting of the assembled lower and upper parts, but it is a technical fact that the visible damages only appear as we see them if the cross was oblique at the time of the injury, i.e. it was installed at an angle in the first place. No drawing, embroidery, engraving on money, etc. it doesn't change.

The Holy Crown is like that. It's like genetics. Because legends can be brushed aside, but not genetic data.

How is the Earth? Is Western green policy moving in the right direction? What is the relationship between science and the ideologically driven green lobby? Does it matter what a group of countries or a continent wants if there is no universal and unified will? Does humanity have a chance or is cataclysm inevitable?

The Earth is still there, or more precisely, the planet Earth and the biosphere on it keep our beautiful and big "spaceship" in a state suitable for carrying life and thus humanity. But ever since we have been able to examine our home from the outside (from satellites, etc.), we have seen that our civilization causes significant disturbances in the operation of this large and very complicated system due to human thoughtlessness. Fortunately, since the measurements of the first research satellite (Explorer-1, 1958) and the observations of the first astronauts (Gagarin and Tyitov), ​​research on the Earth has been continuous and intensive.

The Earth is not an endlessly exploitable "playground", but rather one of the most complex systems known to us, which has been optimally functioning for the support of life for billions of years, but which is finite and which we are constantly researching.

When running a race, due to careless (e.g. focusing only on increasing profits) use, you will undoubtedly face more and more problems.

All of this partly caused panic reactions, and political tendencies also want to use the reference to "environmental problems", ignoring the aspects of human life and the functioning of civilization. Unfortunately, it is typical that by picking out a detail or a part that is not well known by people, they force "environmental protection" actions that are harmful to both the functioning of the Earth and the lives of people. Sometimes successfully.

This selection of bad goals due to conscious bias or ignorance is a characteristic of the so-called Western green policy - it has domestic equivalents as well. This is a problem. It does not serve to protect the functioning of our planet, nor to protect people's lives.

Instead, we should deal with "the protection of Creation", which requires a kind of "polyhistoric" approach. For the sake of clarity, I will show an example. Not local, to avoid a pointless and generally ill-mannered discussion. Panic was created against nuclear power plants due to two serious, deliberate human bad decision power plant accidents (Chernobyl, Fukushima). At the same time, in order to stop the increase in the Earth's average temperature, carbon dioxide emissions must also be reduced, and that is why they are fighting, of course. They managed to get into positions of power in Germany. Nuclear power plants were shut down. But to stay alive, electricity is constantly needed. Even if there is no wind, even if the sun goes down, etc.

Therefore, the coal-fired thermal power plants were reopened, pouring carbon dioxide into the atmosphere and seriously polluting the air with other components (dust, etc.). Nuclear power plants emit zero carbon dioxide…

In other words, there is a lack of both scientific thoroughness, respect for life, and a sufficiently thorough review of the problem. The "green" lobby and "green" clamor are downright dangerous.

In addition, respect and love for life and our created world are fundamentally missing from this kind of problem-approach. All this is compounded by the fact that they want to make people and society uniform, which is also destructive. In accordance with the instructions of King St. István, there is no need for uniformity (uniformization) to deal with this truly global set of problems, but for cooperation (cooperation) due to the many approaches given by the many paradigms (nations, languages).

It is not a global empire that can solve this really big task, but the friendly and trusting cooperation of many nations looking for a solution. We don't need to defeat, but rather a sensible, friendship-based persuasion.

Humanity - I hope - has a chance, but only in the case of problem treatment based on love and already known professional truth. We are undoubtedly 50 years late. Because the moon flights and the construction of the first space station at that time (around 1970) gave birth to, for example, the energy production technologies necessary for our survival (hydrogen technology, nuclear technologies, etc.), i.e. the necessary and immediately applicable knowledge. But the technological change, unlike those that took place earlier in history, has now fallen behind. Even now, it only proceeds irregularly, often burdened with dilettante arrogance and senseless delay. And this is definitely a source of trouble.

You are not only an electrical engineer and space explorer, but also the Grand Master of the Order of St. Stephen. How was this thousand-year-old order created and what is its mission today? What is the experience, is the number of those who deny that faith is compatible with science increasing or decreasing?

To be precise, I could serve as Grand Master of the Cruciferi Sancti Regis Stefani, i.e. the Order of Saint Stephen. However, due to my age, I requested my exemption at the 2022 Grand Chapter, so I am already emeritus. The predecessor of our order, the spirit of which we continue, was founded by our King St. István in 1017-18, founding hospitals and pilgrimage houses with monastic communities from Esztergom to Rome and Jerusalem.

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At the same time, he opened, reopening the pilgrimage route to Jerusalem for Europe. He founded an order bearing the name of Saint István the First Martyr. When, at the initiative of St. Bernard, the Hospitaller orders and those helping with pilgrimages were transformed into knight orders, i.e. in addition to Hospitallership, the protection of the needy, especially the Faith and the Church, could also be included in the Hospitallers' vows II. At the request of our King Géza III. Pope Alexander transformed the Order into a cruciferi, a knight order, and now it is assigned to King St. Stephen.

Now, as an institution of the Catholic Church, the Archdiocese of Esztergom-Budapest, it is our task, as the successors of this spirit, to carry out charitable and helping work, in accordance with the vocation of our predecessors, to preach and defend the Faith, especially to participate in the re-evangelization of our nation, so to speak, to exercise grace for the entire Hungarian nation . After all, the mother of our Lord, the Holy Virgin Mary, is the Queen and Grandmother of our nation.

Faith and science have the same basis. Our faith is based on the revelation of the Almighty, and science examines the world created by the Almighty and researches its laws. Thus, there can be no contradiction between Faith and science. But our science is the product of the totality of finite human effort, which is constantly evolving and becoming more precise. That is why, as stated in our articles of association, when we conduct research or become familiar with the emerging results of science, we follow the guidelines that

"feel free to research, but beware of hasty conclusions".

Today, the biggest problem is not that there are those who deny the existence of God and the creation of our world. If you are open to discussions and thinking things through, you can have a meaningful conversation with them. There is a problem here if, due to a deeper-rooted prejudice, you cannot or do not want to think about what you have heard. However, many well-known scientists have said and say in the course of our history that

those who try science will waver, may waver in their faith (if they had any at all), but by digging deep into science, they will find themselves face to face with God.

However, the big problem nowadays, based on XVI. Pope Benedict's analysis and guidance in this regard, indifference. In the "modernizing" societies, indifference and disinterest in faith is increasing. Breaking through this is difficult, but possible. Pope Benedict suggests a good strategy for this. By walking this way, we certainly do not harm our neighbor, but we may be able to help him. After all, a person's indifference is not only inherent in faith, but also in his human relationships, professional work, and his willingness to make sacrifices. This is, of course, a fundamental problem for the people of the modern age.

József Antall was the chief national security adviser of the former prime minister, so we can say that he was able to observe the events of that time from close quarters. Does the recently released film Blokád reflect the events surrounding the taxi blockade in a contemporary way?

I was really there. The film is apparently a – in my opinion – a good film. In other words, it is not a historical study. But it is contemporary and correctly presents what happened.

For example, unfortunately, the role of Árpád Göncz in the film, which was disputed and criticized by several people, is not fake.

I have to say, as an eyewitness, that the filmmakers also portrayed the figure of the first president of the republic of the regime change well and tactfully. The film portrays the Prime Minister in an authentic and dignified way. As well as the fact that the communist dictatorship was actually prepared so that if they could not retain the opportunity to govern in the elections (1990), they would try to take it back as soon as possible.