The population catastrophe hit Ukraine even before the outbreak of the war, and even after it, more than the negative demographic consequences of the Second World War in Hungary. For the next, at least two generations, the country has become completely hopeless - security policy expert Attila Demkó, head of the MCC Geopolitics Workshop, told Magyar Hírlap. Interview excerpt.
– In one of your statements, you said that Ukraine is too independent for the Americans. Are there any tangible signs of this?
- One is the assassination attempt against Alexander Dugin, in which his daughter lost her life. In Washington, they were afraid that the originally planned attack against the ideologue who constantly whips the West would give serious ammunition to the Russian nationalists and could send Russian propaganda against Ukraine to its peak. The violent style of the Ukrainians is also a thorn in the side of the Americans, which Kiev allows itself - even against the United States. The Ukrainians have crossed a certain line. You can also see that they spoke out against the Ukrainian leadership from several places, because their communication became more restrained. The United States has given Ukraine very serious help so far, financially it could also maintain this, because the 40 billion dollars a year is not a dent in the American budget, much more was spent on Iraq and Afghanistan.
– So then the American weapons will continue to pour into Ukraine?
- It is not certain that it will be exactly like this, because "dust" got into the American aid machine. They don't have enough of certain types of ammunition either, they weren't prepared for such a challenge. The United States is a global power, and the Ukrainian issue is only a slice of the world's problems. The Americans must pay attention to China, and if they put all American resources into Ukraine, they will have no reserve for a potential conflict in Taiwan.
- Ukraine, China, Iran and, of course, Russia are also included in the strategic thinking of the United States. What are Washington's priorities?
- China is the first, the second is obviously Russia. Ukraine is now important because the Russians are "caught" with it. Russia has suffered very significant losses in Ukraine in the recent period, as an offensive power it has weakened a lot. From an American point of view, Iran is also important, but the Persian state itself is only third in the order of priorities, behind China and Russia. And Ukraine is not really important for itself, but because of Russia. Ukraine has an important role in the world in its own right, as it is a large food producer, but its importance from the American point of view is essentially Russia.
- The Ukrainians have also suffered very serious losses recently. It is already clear that Ukraine will not win this war without aid. Is it possible that this realization will change the attitude of the United States and Western Europe towards the conflict?
- Ukrainian losses are basically of interest to Ukraine, for example, how many of their people die in the fighting. For the United States, this is not a consideration. It is not the scale of the Ukrainian losses that changes the American calculus, but how much opportunity they have for further aid. Incidentally, how long can they finance and support the Ukrainian army in such a way that it does not fail. If the Russians hold out longer than the Ukrainians run out of ammunition, Washington will have to make a decision. In this case, the Americans would probably move in the direction of peace. Ukraine's losses are indeed enormous, but the state is sustainable. Americans think logically but coldly about the war in Ukraine, much more logically than Europeans.
the full length of the interview in Magyar Hírlap here.
Source: Magyar Hírlap
Author: Péter G. Fehér
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